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Re: Need to know

I remember the field dressing in its paper package, I know there was a pocket again memory fails where it was. I also remember well the housewife, with much sorrow.

At Caterham we were in former WW2 barracks , a form of hut, above each bed was a window. On kit inspections as I said previously the green blanket was laid out on the bed spring. Various articles of issue equipment were laid out in prescribed order on the blanket, one of these was the housewife. On one inspection the officer inspecting found something wrong with an article on my bed. He then examined the laid out articles from my housewife, the needles laid out in the form of a K for the company identification. The kit had I think about six trouser type buttons, brass buttons, one of these was examined scrupulously and found to have a spot of Bluebell polish in a hole, that was two bad marks three needed for, bad order, murder being two offences below bad order, an inspection of one of the needles proved it to not be thoroughly polished, the bells knelled, all was silent, the crowd dropped their eyes in fear, the accused saw the inevitable opening of the window over his bed, the sergeant taking a firm grip of the bottom corners of the green blanket, and with a practised flip sent all out the open window into the earth outside.

That night I spent a long time recovering in darkness the kit, and searched diligently before finding it all including the needles and buttons.

Company officers charges followed the next day for Bad Order kit, sentenced to three show parades to show polished buttons, and needles.

Re: Need to know

Hi Lads, For what it's worth and from memory, that at times is under great stress. National Service discharge document was a piece of paper folded with only the basic information on it. Army Regular Discharge book was red and had every thing in it, Time of service in every place you served, courses you attended, qualifications you obtained, promotions and demotions, medals awarded etc etc. It also had a reference from your last Commanding Officer in it.
"Dog Tags", mine were aluminiun, one round the other oval, both were worn around the neck. If you were killed the oval was attched to your marker for information when it came to headstone, or whatever. The round one was sent back for records.
Pay Books, AB64 Pt 1 and AB64 Pt 2. Pt2 was, as has already been said, was for pay. Fines were also recorded there, only in red ink. Pt1 carried all sorts of info. Height Weight, Distinguishing Marks, proficiency with weapons and other things required of an Infantryman. You had your pulheems recorded there, this was cut out on discharge, don't ask why. You did have some Will forms at the back and after those came a spot for Permanent Passes. You always had to carry your Pt1 with you unless you were in a situation where the enemy could get valuable information if you were killed or captured. I believe it was carried in your left breast pocket. If you were pulled up by the MP's that was the first thing they asked for, your Pay Book.
I think that's enough, memory has shut down, like a computer, only good for so much. Cheers, Taffy.

Re: Need to know

Gwynn/ Rod, thanks for filling several gaps in my memory.
The big one for me was the Paybook short names "AB64 parts 1 and 2". I was calling them "PB parts 1 and 2.". I felt it wasn't right and was hoping somebody would provide the right name - thanks.
Either you or Rod mentioned National Service discharge papers (which was the focal point of my "Need to Know") . . . I have absolutely no memory of receiving discharge papers.
I thought they simply stamped our AB 64 and we walked through the gates and out.
Not completely free, as I was assigned AER (Army Emergency Reserve) for 3 1/2 years - three annual camps. I think I preferred that to the alternative - TA (Territorials). I also think we kept our uniform for the camps.


Re: Need to know

Hi Bill/Lads,

I remember the Field Dressing Pocket was on the Left Side top of thigh height, the Map pocket on early issue BD trousers were in the left side front knee height(a menace when pressing in creases) on later issues the were on the left side on side a much better position, as regards lower ranks not using them, I must say in the Royal Engineers there was a strong chance you would and did, as every Sapper had to be able to read a map, as some Marines would know you never gave a map to an Officer unless you knew him capable.

Yes Bill it does sound we're the same vintage. I did 2 years National Service, 5 years Regular Service and after a year on Reserve joined TA and was with them 11 years until retiring through age.

Cheers Rod